D1 Grand Prix USA Marketing Deck – Full of Lies and Misinformation
Posted by Joey Redmond on 14 Jun 2010 at 12:50 pm | Tagged as: D1GP, D1GP USA, Formula D, Rhys Millen, Sam Hubinette, Vaughn Gittin Jr.
The proposal isn’t to bad until Page 16 where you get to a D1GP Vs. Formula D comparison page. Sadly they have been sending this packet to potential sponsors and companies trying to bash Formula D and spread blatant lies about the series. The comparison chart is located below and if your having trouble reading it, you can pull up a full size image with a link just below the comparison chart. In my post below all of the
D1GP vs. Formula Drift – Full Size Image
Organizational Footprint
D1GP – “Worldwide” This statement is a stretch but I guess we can even give them this one. They did have D1GB (D1 Great Britain) but after the 2006 D1 Vs. World event in Irwindale they ticked off the guys helping them over in that area. By the next year they split ties with D1GP and started EDC. I know Team Orange has done a few demos worldwide but all of the events have been in Japan/USA in past few years otherwise.
Formula D – “US/North America” All of this information is correct but they did leave out quite a bit of information. They threw an event in Panama (It is also the fastest growing economy and the largest per capita consumer in Central America) which covers them for Central America. For the past four years they have been throwing events in Southeast Asia adding that to the group. “US/North America/Central America/Southeast Asia”
Years in Operation
D1GP – “Japan 11 years / US 7 years” – They have not thrown events for 7 straight years in the USA. In 2008 they announced things and never threw an event on US soil. So far to date they have thrown events in 6 years since coming to the USA. 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009. This season coming up would make the 7th season for them.
Formula D – “US 6 years” For starters they have been in the USA throwing events for 7 years. 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 , 2009, and 2010. They have thrown events for four years in Southeast Asia. Also 2 years in Panama (Central America).
Live Events
D1GP – “Japan, USA, Malaysia, UAE, China” I cannot find a record of D1GP throwing a live event in Malaysia since 2006. To this date they have never thrown an event in the UAE or China. I have been told this winter they are throwing an event in Abu Dhabi (UAE) but no date was given to me.
Formula D – The proposal lists nothing for this section. Here is where Formula D has been doing live events “USA, Mexico, Panama, Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore, Malaysia.”
Domestic or US Television
D1GP – “Speed/Fox Sports Net” The SPEED schedule for D1GP changes days and times through the broadcast. Some episodes are broadcast on Saturday and then some are moved to Sunday. The times range from 2:00pm to 6:30pm across those day changes. Link to D1GP Speed TV Post
Formula D – “Canceled” This is just blatant bullshit. This year they have a program on VERSUS like last season. The show starts airing on 8/15/2010 in the 4:00pm time slot on Sunday for 13 straight weeks with no changes. They also have a re-air of each broadcast which is at 5:30pm the Tuesday after it’s original air date. Formula Drift has never been canceled off a network and offered consistent television since 2005:
2005- G4TV
2006- G4TV
2007- ESPN2
2008- SPEED
2009- Versus
2010- Versus
International Television
D1GP – “Tokyo TV, BS Fuji” No comments here due to lack of information/knowledge.
Formula D – “None” Another bold faced lie listed by D1GP. Formula Drift has posted before it’s syndication to over 300,000,000+ homes internationally that broadcast Formula D on television. They have posted that before on channel/country so if your eager to tune in, locate that sheet. It’s possible Formula D could post some of those slots here in the comments as well. In addition, Formula Drift Asia events are broadcast locally on Star Sports which is owned by ESPN. They have a reach including India, Hong Kong, China, Taiwan, Malaysia, Thailand and more spreading to 200,000,000 homes. These events air on Star Sports quite often and know people who see them frequently. For those of you who know Jason Small his father travels to China on business frequently and tells us about watching Formula D there. Just to provide solid proof, we have posted a whole episode of Star Sports coverage on our site before: Formula D Singapore on Star Sports Part 1
DVD/Blu-Ray
D1GP – “100+ Titles” This is an actual fact they listed in the proposal. D1 under the Option banner has released tons of DVDs which you can buy here.
Formula D – “2 Only Through Drift Alliance” Chalk up another lie. Want to buy Formula D DVD’s? 2005 Season DVD is here and No Limits DVD is here on our store. So now we have established that they released DVDs before. Currently you can access the Formula Drift All Access portion of the website and watch all the old television episodes from the series. New events are also now broadcast on the live stream and archived for viewing. None of these options are things D1GP does offer.
Yearly Estimated Unit Sales (for DVD)
D1GP – “3 Million” This is just not true. Assuming that a DVD costs about $1.00 to press (which is pretty correct) and they sell for an average net profit of $10.00 (low estimate) they would be bringing in $30,000,000 NET PROFIT a year just from DVD sales. The reality is then D1GP wouldn’t be having these financial issues everyone in the Japan drifting scene whispers about. Also speaking with US distributors of the DVD they just don’t move that many units, nothing even close. Less than 10,000 unit sales a year in US sales is a number I was told. So where are these other 2,900,000 DVDs being sold?
Formula D – “0″ I am sure someone buys the DVD units they have made but I guess you cannot list a number D1 Grand Prix when you lied about them making DVDs in the first place.
Video Games
D1GP – “Yes” This is correct. In 2004 they released a D1GP game for Japanese PS2. It wasn’t very good. Then in 2005 they launched D1GP 2005 for the Japanese PS2 which was awesome. It had the three judges very animated in the bottom left corner of the screen as you drifted. In 2006 they brought that same D1GP 2005 game to the United States and released it as NTSC game so it could be playable on a US Playstation 2. They also have had Ryuji Miki’s Top Secret D1GP car featured in Forza 2 and Forza 3. On Japanese arcade systems you can drift as several D1GP cars in Battle Gear 4 as well.
Formula D - “No” Well guess who got it wrong again? They have been featured in two EA Game productions with Formula Drift. The most recent in Need for Speed SHIFT you have Vaughn Gittin Jr.’s 2010 Mustang (PROOF). It is unlocked at Level 10 driver level and you can use it to compete in various drift events. Rhys Millen’s Hyundai Genesis was also featured in Forza 3 in a free Hyundai DLC pack that came out just after SEMA 2009 to all Xbox Live players (PROOF).
Online MMORPG
D1GP – “Yes” Ummm really? Since when did D1 Grand Prix release a MMORPG which stands for “Massively multiplayer online role-playing game.” Per wikipedia “It is a genre of computer role-playing games in which a very large number of players interact with one another within a virtual gaming world.” Anybody know about this one and I am just in the dark? The best I could find is “Drift City” which they called a MMORPG and didn’t look much like one by definition. It also appeared to have no affiliation with D1GP I could find. Perhaps they are working on a Dungeons and D1GP dragons for 2010?
Formula D – “No” This is correct. On the bright side you can play Fantasy Drift for the Formula Drift series here at Wrecked Magazine.
Mobile Games
D1GP – “Yes” They do have in the proposal information about an iPhone drifting game coming out. Don’t think it is on market currently.
Formula D – “No” You cannot get games from Formula Drift but they do have a LiveStream application and you can access Fantasy Drift on mobile phones.
Magazine
D1GP – “Option Magazine (Japan)” This is correct.
Formula D - “No” Formula Drift doesn’t own a magazine but you cannot deny the exposure Formula Drift gets from various media outlets in the United States. An independent study done by Meltwater News showed that Formula Drift has a 90% market share with magazine editorial coverage worldwide.
Professional Judges
D1GP – “All” I agree with this statement.
Formula D – “1 of 3″ Alright so who is the one professional judge? I mean all three drivers have competed on a professional level in Formula Drift. Pretty sure all of them participated in the old D1GP events as well. This is just an absurd statement thrown in here to discredit Formula Drift.
Driftbox Technology
D1GP – “Yes” This is a correct statement. Due to malfunctions of this system back in the 2009 USA series, they made a few drivers run multiple qualifying runs since the box didn’t log any information.
Formula D – “No” I chalked up a debate with a professional driver on this topic and he ended it before it started with “who cares?” I think that somehow put it better than I ever could.
Professional Street Legal Series
D1GP – “Yes” The way they worded the category is just pure trickery. Sure, you guys named your Pro Am series “Street Legal” and nobody else has a “Street Legal” series but it’s just a fancy word for “Am.”
Formula D – “No” They call their series the Formula Drift Pro Am and we mostly reference it as “Am” series. They have a network in the Am series of over 10 series I know of and did some in Southeast Asia as well.
Car and Driver Entries
D1GP – “100+” I have attended several D1GP events in Japan along with the United States in the past 6 years. Never have I seen an entry list of 100+ cars. Even if they met that number, it’s a very irrelevant number. The issue here is quality over quantity any day.
Formula D – “50+” Correct.
Live Event Countries
D1GP – “Japan, U.S., Dubai, China” The big sore thumb here…. Dubai is not a country. It isn’t even the capital city of the United Arab Emirates (proper country name). Dubai is a city and also an emirate of the UAE (think of in America as a state) which they have seven of in the whole country. They didn’t even put enough thought/proof reading into this proposal to verify that fact. Also from Live Events to Live Event Countries Malaysia magically vanished.
Formula D - This section had no entry for Formula Drift. We covered this back in live events but I will bring the same list down. “USA, Mexico, Panama, Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore, Malaysia.”
Number of Yearly Events
D1GP – “15-20″ This is correct fact.
Formula D – “5 to 7″ With international reach Formula Drift will throw 12 events in 2010. The American championship points series consists of 7 rounds. Never in history have they had 5 championship point rounds in one year. 2004 they had 4 (inaugural season) and in 2005 they jumped to 6 rounds. By 2006 they went to 7 rounds for America and have not changed to this day.
Average Attendance Per Event
D1GP – “10,000″ If you went to D1GP USA in 2009 you would know that number was not the case. I won’t really dispute that for Japan numbers because of a lack of direct first hand knowledge. It’s been a good minute since D1GP packed in 10,000 here in the USA.
Formula D – “6,000″ That is another joke. All three events this season have been well clear of 10,000 fans. Irwindale last year broke an attendance record and sold out.
Editor Side Note: It upsets me to see D1GP using these false pretenses and malice practices to try and win sponsorship. While I know some of you might care I think it was worth getting out in the open. Over the last few days they have had reps posting on our site talking about how they are here for the good and growth of the sport. Sure doesn’t seem like it after reading over this. The document’s authenticity was verified by me with proper contact information in the back of this packet along with talking to people who had seen the same packet in presentations/meetings with D1GP. The packet came from a very trustworthy source in the industry who I thank and owe drinks too soon.
I like D1GP, like everyone else it was the option DVD’s that attracted me to this sport, but the above just stinks. I’m all for a competitive business environment but these massaged facts just stand to disillusion and confuse the FMCG market that is finally beginning to warm to Professional Drifting in the USA, thanks to FD.
D1 has failed in all of its attempts to franchise internationally due to unreasonable business practice – what happened Slipstream was replicated elsewhere, in most cases.
Heres an important comparison for the record, perhaps FD can put this in their deck although I doubt they’d stoop to this level:
Failed international franchises – D1GP 4, FD 0.
The house wife they got to design their media kit just made up all that information. Look at how f*cking boring that thing is.
NOPI DRIFT 4 LYFE!!!!!
What a joke.
D1 – go away. we don’t want you in the USA>
Shocked in a way on how D1GP would make up these blatant lies about Formula Drift. Just have to say fairplay to Joey Redmond for taking your time to tell us all what is fact and fiction. Formula Drift 4 life! and Wrecked Magazine too!
I agree…it seems there’s always drama when it comes to D1…I should just call it Drama1. It would take a while for D1 to get more respect in the US..and after releasing stuff like this just , they just make themselves look worse.
a loooooong time ago before D1GP had licences and a real rule book/tech inspection they had a event where 100+ cars showed up.
other then that you guys were spot on!
Just Sayin,
Clubloose has run more events in the usa for longer than D1… Deal with it!
I’m still pretty new to the sport, but I had no idea that Wrecked was in bed with Formula Drift. Kind of disappointed to see such bias…
How do you figure Tesco Vee?
What has Wrecked Magazine said that is incorrect?
It appears D1GP is the one filling the air with lies and deceit.
What facts did they provide that are incorrect? It must upset you and your D1GP fanboyism that the series is run by the scum of the earth and scam artist.
I still say there is room for another professional series in the US..just not D1. There are plenty of talented drivers for this. But Petty is right, clubloose has been doing it longer, having more fun, and the ECB events get ton of media exposure.
Does D1 understand how the American court system works? Slander and Libel are really hard to prove in a court of law!! Unless you have a goddamn press junket showing the blatant BS being shoveled. That has got to be one of the biggest legal blunders I’ve ever seen. Sue the shit out of them FD
Hey I am new to the scene (just a few months) so I’d like to see more coverage on TV… so why the hate on D1?!?!?
is there some history I am missing???
or is it because Wrecked is listed on FD’s site under sponsors/partners??
keep up the great coverage!
Wow, just when you think D1 couldn’t sink any lower. Maybe they have some jealousy issues with Formula D? It’s pretty damn sad. For real- D1 should stay in Japan. I love pro drifting, especially the J drivers, but they continually fail to get anything positive going on over here.
well dan with super cool “im better than you” campaign… How can you expect positivity
I think it all started with a schedule conflict between the Red Bull Drifting World Championship, and the D1 Allstar event. The second money becomes a factor, the purity of our sport gets killed. I think when it all comes down to it, i just want to see the BEST US drivers, compete against the BEST JP drivers. It’s sad we will never get to see that again.
Is this D1 USA Or D1 Japan that is running all of this? I am pretty sure the guys setting all of this up just buy the D1 Name and throw their own event as “D1GP” although it really isn’t affiliated with the Japan series other than hiring their drivers to come out. Am i wrong? Tell me.
i see a mea culpa on behalf of D1 in the near future
Clubloose > D1
wow!
QUEST FOR THE SWORD!
Dear Formula Drift,
I will donate $100 to the up-front fees to hire a lawyer for the most cookie cutter prime example of a libel case I’ve ever seen in my life in hopes that you will file on the principle alone.
This crap is mind-blowingly retarded, and this kinda crap is killing motorsports, especially drifting.
I doubt a lawyer will even ask for anything this would be such simple open/shut case. Take a copy of Formula Drift Batlegrounds from 2005, and a ticket stub from Formula Drift Malaysia, and chose the amount of damage you would like. Since they were courteous enough to state that you clearly have an impact on at least 3 Million DVD customers, and DVD’s are about $20 a piece…you do the math.
D1=a whole new level of fail.
We can get Bob McCoy to take the case
I would tell Wrecked to investigate the IP’s of the two positive comments on here but I think it’s so apparent they are D1 Hype Machine people that I won’t bother.
We keep talking about all the lawsuits going on but can Wrecked Magazine be sued by D1GP? I am sure they want too. Where is that Firesnake guy or shake or whatever that idiot’s name is. Waiting for his “spin” on things.
Sam Hubinette is involved with this? Wow, he just went from annoying driver to fucking worthless.
BOYCOTT SAM HUBINETTE!
Wrecked is an online blog, that has a #rumormill tag on a lot of stuff. They can pretty much do whatever they want as a media outlet attempting to cover the latest “news”. If there weren’t provisions for this there would be a lot of suits filed daily by local news stations with a typo that gets aired.
However, D1 handing out a meida packet with falsified claims is libel, plain and simple. Whoever is/was behind this shouldn’t be allowed to have email abilities ever again in their life, much less the ability to send this out to everyone in the industry.
Epic fail. This is going to snowball into a pretty big deal.
Also, just to show how big of a fanboy I am/always have been.
Video games:
GRID. Drive real FD cars!! D1 cars not so much…
Original NFS Underground. What logo is featured on all the drift tracks, and what are the competitions called?
Formula Drift.
All it takes is a two-second look at a Formula Drift number plaque from over the years to see the Need for Speed underground logo.
My mind is literally blown by the sheer amount of stupidity displayed that has lead to this press-release. How can anyone be sooo ignorant/stupid to actually think they can do this crap, much less carry it out.
All this is leading to sponsors trying D1 over formula D which will lead to them being disappointed when D1 doesn’t deliver on their promises and as such will likely have a dim view on drifting as a whole and reduce the potential sponsor pool for people who really want to grow the sport in the US and not just make money.
D1 needs to focus on their own market.
drift011- they probably put his picture in to show that american drivers want to compete there too. so i wouldnt jump to conclusions just yet.
and may i say, BUBBA DRIFT FTW!!!
wow
I don’t think it matters what they say about FD. They will never get sponsors by bashing Formula D or any other venue that would be out there. What unprofessional assholes.
Does D1 have a trackside bar? Clubloose: 1 D1: 0
I know, It’s a big buziness in expansion, In this case, it must be strong about our position, ready to fight with the competition. But here, It makes me laugh all the time when I see this battle between FD & D1GP ! Cause it always feels a beef as the only competitive business. And despite that, throughout the worldwide including america, we all view and apreciated culture that emerged in Japan there are now more than 20 years also with so much love for the D1GP drivers & FD drivers with all these cars in D1GP & FD that made us dream. So, What do we want to know is, why D1GP has to much hate in FD and why FD has so much hatred for D1GP and since when there was that beef. Like the Canadian MTL & Nordique de Québec, the competition was better for business. In the drift scene, We see two babies crying who always wants to crush the other !!!
You guys will talk smack about them and complain but yet drive in their events. If they are so horrible, and you want them to stay in japan boycott them.
Keep complaining about them and then drive in D1 events. If you want them gone..just boycott them.
Bobby, the problem is not only will they not get sponsors, but as Piner said it just burns people out of the industry and just turns off sponsors in general. They want to buy into a product, not figure out who is slandering the other.
Beufort T, I don’t like you because of what you did to Mr. Darvill back in the late 70′s, but I do agree. Also for the record your son is an idiot.
Does D1 sell season tickets? I’d like to reserve my seats to all 5 events in the US. I won’t accept anything worse than the 3rd row, I can’t be seen with the commonfolk who sit in the nose-bleeds.
@D1_#1_Fan
The day the sport has ‘commonfolk’, is the day it dies, for anyone who wants to have fun doing it on a national stage.
@D1_#1_Fan
this is obviously someone in the D1 organization. i will buy my season tickets now… lmao !
BUT, is this D1 japan corp that has written, or is this D1 USA people that has made up?
OH…………… the great Ineda is threatened by Formula Drift.
What a complement.
US drifting has just become big enough to rival
D1GP.
After all the love the US import scean has shown
Option Magazine.
But hay, he is good a wrecking cars; why should his company be any different?
AS for US drifting; it is too late.
Grass roots drifting is groing all over the place. We have US cars,US tuners, and US tracks
US events streemed live on the net.
Who needs D1GP?
Formula Drift was first to represent in the Dirty South.
“If you strike me down now, I will become more powerfull than you can imajine.”
I have been drifting here and in japan for alomost ten years. I love this sport, and love both series. But, when D1 has come to the states it hasn’t been the D1 that is operated in japan. FD is a highly competitive series and do not think that there should be any undercutting to them. D1 is what started all of international spotlight on the sport, and has produced amazing drivers and given everyone a will to be better. I think there will be room for both series to be huge here, and never have a conflict. The drivers that I know would love it for the real D1 championship to be here, and gives all of us more oppurtunity to be successful. It really sucks that they would blatantly slander a series that has done so much to further their own talent pool, and given drifting some needed fresh blood. Only time will tell how this will play out, but I am excited to have them back.
This whole D1 v. FD battle started long ago right when both series started to grow in US. Drift Association was the Premiere Grassroots Drift (maybe at this time the only) Event Organizing body here in the US. Well the ish hit the fan when Drift Association heads made the logical correct decision to side with the then up and coming Formula D series. This was a time when D1 saw the potential that FD had as a competitive series and pretty much wanted to absorb or Coexist/Takeover. Obviously anyone with a brain could see how much potential FD (as a dominant series here in the US) had so they(FD) say no thanks. Then D1 makes an Ultimatum decision for Drift Assc.. After Drift Assc. annouced partnership with FD its been going on like this ever since. the Drift Enthusiast here in the US finally noticed ( after countless attempts by D1 to bring back the US fans by throwing drift demo after demo after demo and all the exhibitions waste of time) why are we wasting time waitng for 1 or 2 events a year when there is a full series here that we can partake in
So there ya go Thanks for the Memories D1 but FD is the Deal now
SEND IT!!
honestly this shits funny… we can tell some people favor d1 over fd… and vise versa… this blog and most of its complainers are mostly people who do not actually kick clutches in these competitions… SO WHY DO YOU CARE! lmao… also if you look YES it looks like they formulated tha packet leaning towards them why, cause there trying to get sponsors… i wonder if you could please post a sponsorship packet/ proposal from FD looking for sponsors so we could possibly compare that, and BET it will be leaning in FD’s favor.. This is a USA drifting blog and the bloggers are not competitors your a person with some fingers and a opinion… i love all drifing and all levels and organizations why! cause they let us drift on real race tracks and enjoy life… and as any loyal country man you want your series to be bigger and better and honestly this just seems like good old americans and there freedom of speech and hate.. BLow this blog shit up and stick to pictures and videos .. thats how to help this sport cause whats killing it is haters and random fans boys and stiff opinions and Media BS… DONT OVERTHINK! JUST FUCKING DRIFT! yah yah this is mike pollard and i guess im ready for some hate for this but i dont hate FD i just hate how FD reps and fans hate on everything else… cant we all be friends lmao ,
SEE yah AT tha track.. most likely most of you will be in the stands
Are you really discrediting fans of the sport MIKE? They are the MOST important part of drifting on a professional level. Not sure what virtual reality/rich daddy world you live in BUT sponsors are acquired for exposure. Exposure comes from fans….. we are fans of the sport and if you actually had any….i think they are gone now.
Most of us will be in the stands Mike Pollard…but sure as shit not cheering your ass on.
Discrediting fans = NO … discrediting haters = ALL DAY..
as far as your rich boy statement all my fans and people who actually support me as well as other drivers know im the guy that busts his ass driving a beat down van to events with half used tires and a pieced together car with zero sponsors.. lmao and qualifying top 10 in almost every US event i attend
every fan / person has a right to there opinion , you hate me ( i dont care) since day one ive been hated on for pretty much no reason, i guess it was because i got a call to go to japan and since its everyones dream it causes a lot of jealousy.. you can say all you want about what i said but looks like ive found who i was talking about.. YOU and maybe a few others. anyone who knows me and has met me ( drivers and fans ) have no problem with me and like me not for what i say but for how i drive and because i am friendly, so you hate only fuels my fire.. sorry you had to get so but hurt about being called a fan boy but its clear you support and favor another driver/ drivers
as a fan your entitled to that. hate can come from fans but exposure comes from media and sponsors and revenue comes from fans lmao ( the only people i was refering to as in the stands are people like you so lucky for me you and people like you are a minor .1 percent of fans so i think ill be just fine.. have a nice day whoever you are hiding behind a couple letters and some numbers
I cannot think of one instance where FD has picked a fight or said anything negative about D1. It doesn’t really seem like they need to, it’s a one way battle with D1 on the offensive.
thats is true but not completely dan a.. ive never said what d1 is doing is right but putting this into sense people can understand like politics if d1 = democrats and fd = republicans then wrecked to me seems like fox news leaning towards tha republican side.. now this is just a way to makes some easy sense on anything that is news and what people get to see.. if anything has been said from Fd about d1 in tha past you sure didnt see it here or a post of tha FD sponsorship proposal on here nor will you… lets just be rational lol .. since i have to be very very clear on here I love wrecked and its coverage of international drift motorsports but having viewed and not talking on these blogs as a commenter its a american drifting blog ( pro level being FD) those are just facts.. so its what i have come to expect and accept.. now for new fans to the sport when they come on here all they get to see is D1 this and FD that so what are they to believe but what they are allowed to see.. if this doesnt make sense or if i get bashed for it then that just tells me no one wants to take a step back and be unbiased cause you obviously are very solid on your thoughts, i was one of the drivers at d1 chicago and saw all the Bs and even at d1 new jersey im the guy who had to qualify 5 times cause the drift box didnt send data… lifes not fair nor will it always go your way. just about every person i know and are friends with including forrest who was involved in tha drama did not get super negative about these things,i was sitting next to him when kumakubo flicked him off and we laughed … ( later smoothing things out with them and being cool at the end of tha day) sure we got upset at the situation but thats just one day and guess what when i woke up it was a new day and you must moved forward instead of revolving on tha past. everyone makes mistakes . all the a negative hype from last year revolved on this forum when all the interviews came to light.. sure forrest reported on tha situation but no where in there did he HATE d1 and yada yada.. its was bloggers that read and became negative on what happened and started the whole D1 let us down stuff. finally D1 was run by driven events last year and the drift box technology was brought by terrance not D1 . they are actualy currently working on and testing a better system to fix problems from years past.. we just need to be civil and understanding.. again lets just all stop tha hate and start the international growth of EVERY drift event in EVERY country so it can continue to grow and not be shut down on a pro level
i hope you guys see all im saying is positive and not trying to pick on anyone .. remember “KEEP DRIFTING FUN” not political 
magic out
like any competitor you can get emotinal in tha heat of battle.. but at the end of tha day we can all just hang out and have a couple beers and laugh and what previously may have upset us
CHEERS EVERYONE!
You guys keep bringing up D1 japan. Someone even brought up Mr Inada. Can someone please fill us in because i’m pretty sure like i said before he just sells the D1 rights to some guys that used to put on car shows and they are the idiots running the show here.
Mike, I support your views 110%. Shit, D1 even let a couple drivers run for free in all the events last year, simply to build the series and talent pool. We need a bigger show and more fans will attend reguardless of series. I still talk to people on a daily basis who don’t know what drifting is. The market is out there, we just have to reach further.
“D1 even let a couple drivers run for free in all the events last year, simply to build the series and talent pool”
I wonder why, oh because from 05-07 they were too busy kicking drivers out of there series. Drivers like Orido, Ueo, Miki,and NOB. Funny how all those drivers ended up driving in FD at some point. I would include takatori, but he is just about the only driver who has not spoke about his dealings with FD in public.
pollard, somehow u’ve turned yourself from a decent guy to someone who should shut up. without blogs like wrecked, or people with “fingers and an opinion” no one would know or give a rats ass about who you are.
the fact is that politics run in everything. i have yet to see anyone from wrecked openly state “d1 sucks” or anything of that matter. in fact, its clear to see that they care about this sport enough that they’ll expose lies that D1 has stated about it. its clear that its not because they are in support of FD, but its actions such as these that HURT the sport rather than help it. Media brings BS to light, and this is a prime example of it.
You have likened wrecked as fox news, however, it seems like this comment section is more of an open forum to prove them wrong, yet no one from D1 has taken the opportunity to do so. if wrecked were like fox news, they’d just tell you D1 is garbage and shove that down your throat and said that was the final word. i think wrecked has done a great job in bringing to light the discrepancies that exist in this packet and brought it to a more professional level of conduct. if you are insinuating that the inclusion of politics makes drifting ‘un-fun’ then why have you decided to do D1 and FD? perhaps you should stick with running only grassroots events where politics dont matter as much.
allow me to paint a picture you can understand since you are but a driver and most def not a scholar. Lets say one of your sponsors decides to invest alot of money into this upcoming year for D1 having been deceived by this packet. they spend alot of money only to see D1 mess up again and fail to meet expectations. now come the end of the year when their investment doesnt have the returns they were expecting, they pull out of D1, but also pull your sponsorship because now they gotta cut money where they can. not only has the sport lost a sponsor, but u’ve lost one. see how this can directly affect you?
also, how do you know the demographics of who are writing comments? does it matter that they arent clutch kicking? doesnt it matter that they, the fans, are spending their hard earned money to come watch people like yourself and support the sport? for that matter, does the voice of the people not matter to you? the comments made by people here are not just blatant hate for no reason. its justified concern and disgust with how D1 has conducted themselves in years past.
backpedaling your statements with “cheers everyone” while attacking your fan base is unprofessional and in poor taste. if you are going to be professional and be in a professional series…act accordingly. you dont see sam hubinette here spouting off.
Mike- Just because you make top 10 in every US AM event you enter means what? There is 10 other dudes at every event all over the country that work just as hard as you chasing a dream in the same boat…. Cool you are going for it but don’t let the fact that D1 is making you a ton of promises skew your view of Drift and what it takes to make it. This whole scenario reminds me of big producers selling a dream to a boy band they gonna make you rich and famous or something? Your ignorance reminds me of a goat with a carrot dangling in front of it about to walk of a cliff.
As far as your comment about the FD proposal, I bet it doesn’t even mention D1. You know why? Because FD has a solid series with a great track record that has been here alive and well since 2004 and they just throw facts to sponsors and sponsors see value.
Follow this carrot>good advice> You might wanna stop being D1′s face to this audience right about now, so that when the empty promises come to light and they are gone AGAIN you can still hold your head up high.
Words of Wisdom for D1….Work with the momentum or leave!
wow just wow… i hope you have a better day
to much negativity here.. way to take a positive post and make it negative … its cool you guys win haha , continue the D1 hate posts i guess …
cheers everyone! well everyone positive that is and you negative people can join us at any time when your rdy to grow up.
guess we’ll just have to wait and see what tha future brings
I see this all the time with sponsorship decks. This is nothing new and when people bash other things it’s because they don’t have any real facts to stand on. The industry knows the facts and you shouldn’t see any real companies supporting this series. If you do, they are suckers and don’t know shit about drifting to begin with and the history here in the US.
The only thing I still see from D1 is the old program on Discovery HD following Sam, and new driver getting into it from back in 2004.
Bottom line, D1 came to me last year to try and help them market here in the US and just blew smoke up my butt with lies. They talk and can’t walk!
You know what? Formula D is the american version of D1GP. Im sorry but I still see D1GP as the iconic ground setting group that put drifting on the map in the U.S. The last even I attended was D1GP Anaheim, CA and I WAS HEATED! “DRIFT BOX”!!! WTF!! I refuse to attend Formula D events as this “new” group of “drifters” claim that formula d is better than d1. If you have never attended a D1GP event you have no room to speak here as you don’t have the smallest idea of the amount of hype it brings from Japan. Personally I am all for bringing D1GP back but leave the drift box on the boat.
D1GP RULES! FORMULA-D DROOLS!
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